Pyro Ele Mage Solo Spec

[Sheirin]

Pyro Ele Solo PvE Spec
Here's the build:
Pyro Ele Spec (http://riftsoulbuilder.com/soul_builder/Mage/055745a6832c473465b366f452051fd2)

Macros:
Flame Bolt:
#show flame bolt
suppressmacrofailures
cast flame bolt
cast countdown
cast fireball

Heat Wave:
#show Heat Wave
suppressmacrofailures
cast [notactive] Internalize Charge
cast Heat Wave
cast Fireball

Summon: Greater Earth Elemental:
#show Summon: Greater Earth Elemental
suppressmacrofailures
cast Fast Summon
cast Summon: Greater Earth Elemental

Searing Vitality:
#show searing vitality
suppressmacrofailures
cast [notactive] Internalize Charge
cast Searing Vitality

Ignite:
#show Ignite
suppressmacrofailures
cast [notactive] Internalize Charge
cast Ignite

Rotations:
Preparation:
First of all, buff yourself with Glyphs of Power, Pyomancer Armor (Fire Armor, if you AOE alot or put the point into Fire Shield insted of Pyromancer's Armor) and Flaring Intellect.
Next thing, will be getting 5 stacks of Pillaging Stone. Cast a Fire Bolt befor stacking for the 10% dmg incrase.
After having 5 stacks, you need to cast Pillaging Stone only once befor the buff runs out.

Single DPS Rotation:
Spam your Flame Bolt Macro twice and use Searing Vitality and Ignite. If the DOT's are about to run out, refresh. Don't forget to manually turn off Internalize Charge.
Spam Flame Bolt Macro again.
If Wildfire procs just spamm the Macro.
If Cinder Burst procs, cast it!
If Inferno procs, cast it! (Don't use it in Macro, because it makes a server call every time you try to cast it to check the status of the Mobs health. This causes a .2-.5 second lag on the Macro. (depending on latency))
When your Charge is full, cast Flame Bolt and spamm the Heat Wave Macro. Only spamm the Macro till Heat Waves wears off.
If the Mob is still alive repeat the first steps.

AoE DPS Rotation:
Get your Ele to tank some Mobs first. Put your Ele's "Attack" on a comfortable key (i used the one left next to 1) and make sure it hit every Mob. Disable it's Earthquake and only enable it after you got the mobs gathered. Also disable Pulverize and enable it when you pulled aggro.
Then cast Burning Ground and Fire Storm. Debuff the Mob with Lockdown.
Use Backdraft if it's get out of controll and heal your Ele with Quicken Elements.
If you pulled agro by accident cast Lockdown (if not on cd), Burning Ground (if not on cd) and use Flicker to get some more distance. Make your Ele attack and use Pulverize to get the aggro back. Throw another Fire Storm at them. Still not enough? Cast Icy Gale and another Burning Ground or Fire Storm.

Side Notes:
If you get attacked use Burning Shield and when it's down use Ice Shield. Don't cast both at the same time because one disables the other! You could also take the Point from Pyromancer's Armor or Backdraft and put it in Fire Shield for slightly more survivability. (Fire Shield stacks with the others)
Use drinks or other consumables to get your health back up.


This is my first time writing a Guide. And it got alot of influence from Bluedots old guides
so special thanks to him! Love ya, dots :D Also special thanks to Blissey for checking and correcting my mistakes. And also special thanks to CericX who helped me form the spec to what it is now.
Let me here your thoughts an improvements

**Last Update 02.26**
Wrote more Info on how to use your Ele in AoE situations

[Nyancat]

I used to use a spec like this. Do you have any numbers for it? I will try it out and get back to you.

[Sheirin]

What you mean numbers? Sry as i said still new to the "guide" world

[Keln]

I think Nyancat is referring to parse stats, how much damage and all that it does.

[Sheirin]

ah ahm yea, I'm not good with this stuff. I just played with it and it turned out nicely and other kept asking what spec i'm using.. so i posted it here
i thought thats what bluedot made this site for :D
Tho i'm eager to learn an if someone whld have the patience to show me how wld be really helpfull

[CericX]

http://www.riftui.com/downloads/info58-2.2.1.html

Instructions are on the page. Load the addon, then go beat up a dummy for 10 minutes, then copy the parse and post it for the build.

[Sheirin]

Time: 10:14 Ally DPS: 1010 Sheireen :1010
Like this?
I have 1100 sp and 760 sc

[Rexer]

I think you're missing the talent that reduces global cooldown by 0.5s. Other than that... well it's obviously not the most effective spec but it's great that you made a guide out of it.

[Sheirin]

I think you're missing the talent that reduces global cooldown by 0.5s. Other than that... well it's obviously not the most effective spec but it's great that you made a guide out of it.

i actually tried to balance between most dps and survivability. This build is meant to solo hunt mobs. I know that Necro/lock might be better but i like Ele alot more. an maybe others do as well. so i'm trying to get the best out of it :)

Thanks for all the help

[CericX]

I'd think pulling 3 from Burning Fury and 2 from Wildfire and placing them into Spark should give a good jump in DPS at little or no loss to survivability. Mobs die fast so long term dps items like Burning Fury won't display well.

[Sheirin]

cant take burning fury off. i wont have enough spended points to go up the pyro tree

strangely works on the soul builder but it dosn't in rift. an if you count right you only get 12 without burning fury /:

[CericX]

cant take burning fury off. i wont have enough spended points to go up the pyro tree

strangely works on the soul builder but it dosn't in rift. an if you count right you only get 12 without burning fury /:

Ah, my fault, I simply didn't look close enough.
Pull one from Planar Expansion and one from Improved Quicken Elements, then 3 from Wildfire and place them into Spark. The loss of wildfire won't be a dps loss, instead with your macro it will probably be a gain. You'll still get the 10% damage buff for 10 seconds then move to your Fireball spam which is the meat of your DPS

On Planar Expansion and Improved Quicken Elements, you shouldn't see the time that you need to heal your pet if you're killing things quick enough and the dps from Planar expansion will quickly be overshadowed by your 1s GCD.
While we're at it lets remove the point in Ice Shield and shift it to Fire Shield in Pyro. You'll get more benefit from it and won't have to cast it manually.
Should end up as
Pyromancer (36)/Elementalist (30)/Archon (0) (http://riftsoulbuilder.com/soul_builder/Mage/22628ee3fb8fdfa55b3f5a2a8b1780eb)
Give that a go with you're parser and see how it feels.

[Sheirin]

Ice shield is needed for the 15 points again. (maybe someone shld tell them there's is a bug in their builder /: )
And that may count for single targets. But what bout when you aoe like 2-4 mobs on ember isle an your pet dies? your screwed lol. I'm tryin to get a balanced level spec which is easy to use. Hope i don't sound disrespectfull. In the time i'm using this build now i often get stuck with 2-3 mobs, mostly more on invasions. maybe 1 less quicken elements for fire shield or else where.. but the other way: the faster your are done with healin your pet the faster you can attack again.

Your right for the single target perspective i guess. I'm thinkin bout adding this as an optional more single target based build. If you don't mind :D I'll try it on phraser first, tho

[CericX]

Ice shield is needed for the 15 points again. (maybe someone shld tell them there's is a bug in their builder /: )
And that may count for single targets. But what bout when you aoe like 2-4 mobs on ember isle an your pet dies? your screwed lol. I'm tryin to get a balanced level spec which is easy to use. Hope i don't sound disrespectfull. In the time i'm using this build now i often get stuck with 2-3 mobs, mostly more on invasions. maybe 1 less quicken elements for fire shield or else where.. but the other way: the faster your are done with healin your pet the faster you can attack again.

Your right for the single target perspective i guess. I'm thinkin bout adding this as an optional more single target based build. If you don't mind :D I'll try it on phraser first, tho

Yeah, I'm getting kinda fussy with the builder. I'm too reliant on its feedback. Run the parser on that build *put the shield back* and see what it does from a 10min parse. Burning 1-2 mobs quickly is more where my mind was. For larger AOE pulls, I'm not sure that a pet spec is really ideal because of the amount of time\maint to get the pull together and keep the pet alive. I fixed the build from earlier (manually counted bygolly)
Pyromancer (35)/Elementalist (31)/Archon (0) (http://riftsoulbuilder.com/soul_builder/Mage/04aafe5375879796af1c77cb19dbac53)

During your parse, exactly how much damage is your pet doing? My thought is that it will do about the same amount of damage to a group, so doesn't scale for number of mobs. Using the idea that the pet is there simply to gather\grab aggy, and not to damage, I would suggest maybe
Pyromancer (38)/Elementalist (28)/Archon (0) (http://riftsoulbuilder.com/soul_builder/Mage/13f1864ddf9e326ff1790fcc5dd05c19)

Should allow a similiar AOE sequence but with LockDown for 8 seconds of control as well as backdraft.

Burning Ground
Fire Storm
Lock Down
Fire Storm
Flicker
Back Draft
Burning Ground
Heat Wave
Fire Storm
Lock Down
Fire Storm
Flicker
Back Draft
Burning Ground

Just throwing out ideas, if they work for ya cool, if not no harm done. Theorycrafting is way more fun than re-reading the forum threads again :P

No reason to not explore the build and thoughts in the forum thread prior to posting an article.

[Sheirin]

Now here comes the hard work of Theorycrafting lol
your second spec made me realize that i was to focused on that lil 20% less dmg for 5secs. Cld save 4 points acutally...

now i'm tryin out which does more dps.. Wildlife (http://riftsoulbuilder.com/soul_builder/Mage/055745a6832c473465b366f452051fd2) or Intesify Elements (http://riftsoulbuilder.com/soul_builder/Mage/a704ef26a0cfa2c880e9c4827eef1a76)..
Theorycrafting is pretty catchy D:

thanks for your advices :D

with Intesify Time: 06:04 Ally DPS: 1110 Sheireen :1110
with Wildlife Time: 05:49 Ally DPS: 1177 Sheireen :1177
If i wldn't had run out of mana, i cld had cast another Heat Wave like i did in the Intesify one so it wld have been even higher.
It also gives you another controll aoe so i suggest wildlife is lots better :D

2 more question to your aoe rotation. why usin flicker? and why using Lock down so often? the pet shld be tankin so i think it's more a kind of an escape skill lol or to resummon your ele if it gets destroyed or you just pulled agro accidently. for more controll.

[CericX]

Now here comes the hard work of Theorycrafting lol
your second spec made me realize that i was to focused on that lil 20% less dmg for 5secs. Cld save 4 points acutally...

now i'm tryin out which does more dps.. Wildlife (http://riftsoulbuilder.com/soul_builder/Mage/055745a6832c473465b366f452051fd2) or Intesify Elements (http://riftsoulbuilder.com/soul_builder/Mage/a704ef26a0cfa2c880e9c4827eef1a76)..
Theorycrafting is pretty catchy D:

thanks for your advices :D

with Intesify Time: 06:04 Ally DPS: 1110 Sheireen :1110
with Wildlife Time: 05:49 Ally DPS: 1177 Sheireen :1177
If i wldn't had run out of mana, i cld had cast another Heat Wave like i did in the Intesify one so it wld have been even higher.
It also gives you another controll aoe so i suggest wildlife is lots better :D

2 more question to your aoe rotation. why usin flicker? and why using Lock down so often? the pet shld be tankin so i think it's more a kind of an escape skill lol or to resummon your ele if it gets destroyed or you just pulled agro accidently. for more controll.

Sorry, lost the post for a bit. Lockdown increases all fire damage received by the affected enemies by 5%. Also, I have serious doubts about anything being alive through the first 1\2 of the sequence, much less making it to Heatwave. I made the sequence to show that it can go on for an extreme time and maintain control\damage throughout. Flicker is used in it on the assumption that at that gap the mobs would be uncontrolled and you would flicker away and resume doin the dirty to em.
Most probable is that your pet will lose control of one or more of the mobs during the AOE rounds so its all built in there. Fire Storm is channeled and you need never go past it in the sequence if your pet maintains control of the mobs!

[CericX]

Pull Wildfire from your build entirely, spend those points on something unrelated like Fiery Concentration, parse it that way and compare to the build with Wildfire. If you're using your macro you might find something interesting changes.

[Sheirin]

Dosn't Fiery Concentration only shows when i'm actually bein hit? Or do you just want me to show that Wildfire isn't an actually dps incrase? Anyway i'll parse it now.
With Fiery Con. i cld skip on Burning Fury. Shld i also try an save these for somethin else? Will try that out! :D

0Wildfire 3Fiery Conc (http://riftsoulbuilder.com/soul_builder/Mage/c029c9acf4dac2557d12673dc631f06b) Time: 05:08 Ally DPS: 1032 Sheireen :1032

Now that is some loss there.. i doubt that something cld replace that. And Wildfire was a good burst for single targed PvE.

[CericX]

Just checking if it is in fact a DPS increase due to your macro. Since flame bolt's big deal is that it buff's damage by 10%, and fireball is better dps compared. Should keep Burning Fury, just need to avoid Wild Fire (if I'm right) because it could cause you to spam Flame Bolt x4 using your macro instead of
(1)Flamebolt>(1)Countdown>Fireball [spam]
Which should be your best I think.

[CericX]

Thinking about it too, pyromancer's armor isn't really a damage increase so much as a spike. Probably could just maintain fire armor and have a much more stable pve spec with same overall dps. *yes, you'll have to parse this a few times to determine due to RNG*
That would give you another point to move around inside pyro too. Might pull it in favor of burning bonds or fire shield.

[Sheirin]

Just took that idea and went a lil further with adding 10 points into Warlock for Opportunity.. Not sure if it outbursts the 25% more Int from Archon.. Gotta try that one now
34 Pyro 22 Ele 10 Lock (http://riftsoulbuilder.com/soul_builder/Mage/116fb9f049b5b2afdaab69c75f3938ee)
benefits are Reconstruct (no needs for drinks anymore) and Cinderburst on opp. Neddar's Strength wld replace the buff from Searing Vitality.
losses are no 30%more crit dmg..
here another one i'll try out : 32 Pyro 21 Ele 13Lock (http://riftsoulbuilder.com/soul_builder/Mage/4b9cd12e5f6a3ee468768f3737676b87)
The Macro Spamming itself did improve, the over all dps isn't reaching the Wildfire Spec, tho.. (test on dummys till now) I'll try 'em out on Ember Isle now
20secs / mob >800dps~

[CericX]

Just took that idea and went a lil further with adding 10 points into Warlock for Opportunity.. Not sure if it outbursts the 25% more Int from Archon.. Gotta try that one now
34 Pyro 22 Ele 10 Lock (http://riftsoulbuilder.com/soul_builder/Mage/116fb9f049b5b2afdaab69c75f3938ee)
benefits are Reconstruct (no needs for drinks anymore) and Cinderburst on opp. Neddar's Strength wld replace the buff from Searing Vitality.
losses are no 30%more crit dmg..
here another one i'll try out : 32 Pyro 21 Ele 13Lock (http://riftsoulbuilder.com/soul_builder/Mage/4b9cd12e5f6a3ee468768f3737676b87)
The Macro Spamming itself did improve, the over all dps isn't reaching the Wildfire Spec, tho.. (test on dummys till now) I'll try 'em out on Ember Isle now

Works works, aren't parses nice! I'm kinda concerned that you're moving so far away from your spec. If you just want to find the perfect grinding specs, boy do I got suggestions!

[Sheirin]

True. I'm already back to my normaly spec.. Kinda got carried away.
Gotta say that the wildfire spec got more burst dmg is flexible enough to do everything i need while questin. Larger/Elite Mobs go down with Heatwave. Smaller Mobs just macro spammin. Group mobs with the AOE's + Controls an the bigger Heal on your Ele.. only thing it lacks is health regen while/after a fight. but a drink for some silver will do the same job.
still open for new ideas :D

[CericX]

True. I'm already back to my normaly spec.. Kinda got carried away.
Gotta say that the wildfire spec got more burst dmg is flexible enough to do everything i need while questin. Larger/Elite Mobs go down with Heatwave. Smaller Mobs just macro spammin. Group mobs with the AOE's + Controls an the bigger Heal on your Ele.. only thing it lacks is health regen while/after a fight. but a drink for some silver will do the same job.
still open for new ideas :D

Actually sounds like you've settled on one which sounds pretty solid. Update yer guide with the build\rotations! Once you're done with that, time to play with either Pyro\Dom for quick 1:1 or 1:2 grinding or go whole hog to Necroloc for chain pull grinding nomnom

[Sheirin]

Aren't there enough guides already for those? I doubt i cld actually improve those. Without your help (thank you so much *bow*) i wouldn't even have this spec as it is right now. I've already finished the guide update. If i didn't miss anything, that is!

[CericX]

I didn't say write a guide on other specs! I said if you want to play with some others!

Also...I still say swap Pyromancers armor for Fire Shield and just use Fire Armor in its place. :P

[Sheirin]

But that gives only a 10second shield an consumes only 750dmg with 5k hp. and that just once every 30 seconds with 30% possibility to proc. You already have Ice shield and burning shield which does the same but on command for 30seconds. Even if Cinder Burst isn't a real dps incrase but it's a good finisher instead of waiting 2seconds for Fire Ball to hit. Tho you cld say this is a taste thing
implemented it in the guide ;)

[CericX]

But that gives only a 10second shield an consumes only 750dmg with 5k hp. and that just once every 30 seconds with 30% possibility to proc. You already have Ice shield and burning shield which does the same but on command for 30seconds. Even if Cinder Burst isn't a real dps incrase but it's a good finisher instead of waiting 2seconds for Fire Ball to hit. Tho you cld say this is a taste thing

Certainly a taste thing. It stacks with both of the other shields and is passive so doesn't cost the GCD to put it up like the other two do. Pyro Armor...just not a fan of really. Damage is spikey, so when I get in the groove of killing things 5-6 buttons, then find that its 4 buttons, then 7..get where I'm going? Just not as comfortable for me aside from DPS. I just feel its a wasted point outside of pvp <.< each to thier own though!

[Sheirin]

know what you mean.. tho i got this epic mice with num pad on it :D so just a thumb click an voila! cinder burst (:<

get imba (http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.169418900/categoryId.35208800)

[CericX]

mmm Got the Razor keyboard and went for Logitec MX518, plenty of buttons to click!

[Sheirin]

Whee i got most views :D
But no suggenstions anymore?

[CericX]

Here I thought you'd quit checking the thread! Go compare NecroLoc (http://bluedots.org/content.php?203-NecroLoc-Leveling-Grinding-or-5-man-this-guy-does-it!) and see what you think survival\kill speed\dps compares to yours!

[Sheirin]

I did already. Necro lock has more survivability. But pyro ele lots more dps. I love to defend in camps on ember isle with those heal things as back up.
I used Dots necro loch, tho
gonna check urs now :D

Oh and I changed backdraft to fire shield. Was to much of a hassle to use backdraft.

[CericX]

I did already. Necro lock has more survivability. But pyro ele lots more dps. I love to defend in camps on ember isle with those heal things as back up.
I used Dots necro loch, tho
gonna check urs now :D

Oh and I changed backdraft to fire shield. Was to much of a hassle to use backdraft.

Pretty different focus between bluedots and mine. His is a raid spec and mine's a grinder. Focus on getting Defile up and maintained on your target and using opportunity procs for void bolt and you should see some very nice results on mobs.

[Sheirin]

I meant his ember isle spec. here (http://www.riftsoulbuilder.com/soul_builder/Mage/d64e971b9e50d45492a3cd7df190b9f7)

[CericX]

Hmm, hadn't seen that one. Pretty similiar but he went with a heavier pet tank and primary single target dps while mine went for more self-tank + AOE. Now I've gotta go find his write-up on it.
:P

[bluedot]

Hmm, hadn't seen that one. Pretty similiar but he went with a heavier pet tank and primary single target dps while mine went for more self-tank + AOE. Now I've gotta go find his write-up on it.
:P


Not sure I ever did a write up on it :o

It used to be part of the End Game Mage PvE Guide because it was raid viable.. once it stopped being raid viable I removed it from that list. It also appears in the mage leveling guide, but thats for leveling.. and I have a video on it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1gAjnnIQNV4

[CericX]

Gotta wait till afterwork to watch it:( :( :(

[Sheirin]

No write up. Just a Video guide on the old site.