[1.8] Rexer's DPS Guide (Single Target)

Text is a little hard to read; would prefer a bolder typeface

Originally Posted by popezaphod

Text is a little hard to read; would prefer a bolder typeface

Just this article or all articles?

Originally Posted by popezaphod

Text is a little hard to read; would prefer a bolder typeface

Heh, I just used the default.

Awesome guide, and i know a guide is for telling people what they should do, i think there is one thing people shouldnt do :P
Something to add maybe is when i see mages parsing the dummy, or in raids etc. I see them press sac-life dmg and then turning int charge on. And they are quite suprised when i say it doesnt stack. There are a lot of moments where you may or may not use it, but like you said, the tiny things have never really prooven.

No cancel buff macro at the end of dots?

If you only use IC for dots, then your charge will be capped for a good portion of time. With this system you never have to worry about turning IC on or off, aside from a few seconds before HW.

Question:
I use this basic rotation but with Pyromancer's Armor. Have you tried this build with Pyromancer's Armor? The CD refresh on Cinderburst seems like it would be nice to have.

Just wondering if you've experimented with this or not.
Thank you.

I have spent a lot of time testing the two armors. What I have found is that they both offer similar average dps (too close too tell which one is better), but pyro armor has a HUGE variation in dps. This means you can get high parses and low parses with pyro, while your parses will remain fairly consistent with fire. Also keep in mind using fire requires 1 less thing to worry about. So if you are going for a record-breaking parse, use pyro. Otherwise I would just stick to fire.

What happens often is someone gets a higher parse with pyro than with fire, and assumes pyro is better. If anyone has done extensive tests to show pyro > fire when it comes to average dps, then post your results.

Rexer.can you try a few parses without applying Pillaging stone,or do you reset the parse before continuing the rotation?
Oddly enough ive found myself,and a few mages friends,applying the 5 stacks is overall a dps loss, we are finding that applying Flame bolt first then immediately after heat wave,applying Internalize Charge @ 100% or so.generates higher dps,basically we dont use Pillaging Stone at all

Pillaging is always worth using at the beginning of a fight, and also worth keeping up throughout the fight. As far as parsing, I always do 5m parses with food buff and a powerstone, and I start off with 0 pillaging stacks.

First of all thanks a lot for the clear guide with macros enclosed.

I was wondering, if it is possible to give an estimate, of what the dps would be for 1500 SP/800 Crit, as I'm really struggling to make the rotations work properly and I would like to have number to shoot for. ( only 3/4 pieces Blighted ->No Warlock Synergy Yet ).

Many thanks in advance,

Son

It's really hard to say. I just tell people to keep practicing until their parses stop going up, and start being consistent. You also want to re-read the guide every so often because it's hard to absorb everything at the beginning. And you want the pyro crystal, not the lock crystal (I just edited the guide to make sure that's clear).

Originally Posted by devilmaycare

Rexer.can you try a few parses without applying Pillaging stone,or do you reset the parse before continuing the rotation?
Oddly enough ive found myself,and a few mages friends,applying the 5 stacks is overall a dps loss, we are finding that applying Flame bolt first then immediately after heat wave,applying Internalize Charge @ 100% or so.generates higher dps,basically we dont use Pillaging Stone at all

Dueling a fellow mage or even a rogue before a major boss fight can get you your 5 stacks before the encounter even begins. Then the 1 cast to maintain during the fight every 5 mins is worth keeping the stacks.

Pillaging gives you 40 int and 40 wis, and even though applying it does not do as much damage as the normal rotation, it is definitely worth using. You could do math to figure out the minimum length fight where it's worth using, but you will just come up with a number that's way lower than every boss fight.

Originally Posted by Rexer

It's really hard to say. I just tell people to keep practicing until their parses stop going up, and start being consistent. You also want to re-read the guide every so often because it's hard to absorb everything at the beginning. And you want the pyro crystal, not the lock crystal (I just edited the guide to make sure that's clear).

Thank you for the clarification on Pyro. I'm also a bit wondering, as a different spec I'm using is allowing me to put out 1400-1450 dps ST, and I was wondering if it was in any way competitive (considering my SP/Crit 1500/800).

Originally Posted by bluedot

Just this article or all articles?

I think a font style as

Code:

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  font: 14px/1.4em Tahoma,Calibri,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;
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could fix the readability a little

you can steal some css from http://www.readability.com/articles/jhwlaffm since it's design has one of most readable and beautiful typography on the internet.
By the way it just depends on the user resolution and hardware (big monitors need a little bigger typeface)

Originally Posted by Son

First of all thanks a lot for the clear guide with macros enclosed.

I was wondering, if it is possible to give an estimate, of what the dps would be for 1500 SP/800 Crit, as I'm really struggling to make the rotations work properly and I would like to have number to shoot for. ( only 3/4 pieces Blighted ->No Warlock Synergy Yet ).

Many thanks in advance,

Son

I recall doing a test with right around those stats for a guildie, was in 1.6 though and with 4piece blighted pyro crystal (around 100-150 extra dps iirc, could be way off). I was at around 1.9k, give or take.

Thanks for the mark. Now have something to shoot for, appreciated,

Son

got a quick question : aren't macros generating unnecessary delay on spell cast?

Originally Posted by dark_leader

got a quick question : aren't macros generating unnecessary delay on spell cast?

Only if you're using inferno in a macro, or any other spell that has to query the server before being used. All the macros in this guide are very short and the delay required to do the macro should be negligible.