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  • MT Heals + light AOE 51 Purifier Guide 1.8

    51 Purifier\15 Sent

    Purifier (51)/Sentinel (15)/Warden (0)

    This build works in 5-man, 10-man, and 20-man content. Some of the choices and values will vary based on the content you are working with and your gear level. This is written with fresh 50's in mind and some of the choices and methods represent that. I've put notes along with most of the choices to alert players to where a trade has been made.
    In 5-man it assumed you'll be working without an Archon to give it's casting time buff. 10-man is equally likely to be without, at 20-man there will generally be an Archon to count on.

    First thing go grab a Ancestral Soulstone to go in your focus.
    (If you are using this ONLY for raid, it is probably best to skip this essence as other healers will be taking care of the raid. *On the same note, if you won't be doing any AOE healing to speak of, take 5 out of Healing Benediction (sent) and move it to 5 in Stroke of Genius (cab.))

    Utility
    Flash of the Phoenix
    Latent Blaze

    Buff
    Wisdom of the Era
    Heroic Blessing

    Oh Hell
    Fiery Blessing
    Searing Transfusion
    Flashover
    Sterilize
    Rite of the Ancestors
    Spiritual Conflagration
    Caregiver's Blessing
    Touch the Light

    AOE
    Surging Flames
    Gathering of the Ancestors
    Healing Communion

    Single Target Rotation
    *Make sure Surging Flames is on your tank if you want some aoe heal spam*
    Ward of the Ancestors > Restorative Flame
    (Macro is below)
    ** Should you be using Ward before Restorative Flame or Vice Versa **
    Mobility fights, reverse this order, for stand still fights click the link below and determine where you stand on the list.
    Forum Thread Here



    Macros

    A quick note on macros, these work for some people, not for others. If you are more comfortable not using one, more power to you. If you find that it makes your life easier, tweak them to match your playstyle or the activity you'll be doing. Primarily used for freeing up hotbar spaces and reducing reaches. If you have a specific sequence you need to cast, macroing is a good method if you can get the cooldowns to sequence.

    Main Tank Heals This leaves 85% uptime on Ward for use on players not the tank. Refer to Forum Thread Here to determine whether you should be using it in this sequence.
    Quick Save
    One Big Heal
    Code:
    #show Flashover
    cast Flashover
    cast Restorative Flame
    One Fast Heal
    Oh Hell Click one time then go back to normal rotation. The first two can also be used for pre-casting before a pull or boss.
    AOE

    *Credit to Oakayam for suggested soul changes and notes on mobility for 20man vs 5man\10man.
    Comments 12 Comments
    1. CericX's Avatar
      CericX -
      Now with Hoverinks!
    1. Oakayam's Avatar
      Oakayam -
      If we are talking raid setting then Ill dispute some of your choices. There is no reason to take 15p into Sentinel. You should never spend 2 secs casting Healing Communion. Touch the Light is unnecessary. In most cases you will waste Ancestral Flame you just applied and Purifier has other cooldowns that scale much better with extra spell power when you need 'bigger' heal. Take 5p in Cab to make your shields more powerful.

      I would recommend to never use Ward of the Ancestors in so called rotation. You wasting a cooldown which is best spent when you have to move.
      Futhermore, you put Spiritual Conflagration with Rite of the Ancestors. Big no-no. The shields overwrite each other ( at least till 1.8 when they will be blocked ).. not only that but you put channeled ability ( SC ) with macro you clearly intent to spam guaranteeing you will use your SC cooldown without getting its benefits.

      Blessings are on 45s cooldown, good purifier will use them often. I like putting them ( Fiery Blessing and Caregiver's Blessing ) on modifiers with RF macro for easy access and to ensure I can take advantage of the fact they don't have GCD.

      Another way to use Caregiver's effectively is to macro it to Healing Flare. Again this something you can use while moving. Throw one big shield - Rite or Ward or even Gathering - and spam Caregiver's + Healing Flare macro while running. If I need a bigger heal then Ill use Flashover with Searing Transfusion followed by Healing Breath.

      More often I combine Flashover with Latent Blaze before the fight. Yes this makes Latent Blaze crit when used. Love that trick. Best 'Oh crap' cooldown, I didn't even had to time it :P

      Just my two cents.
    1. CericX's Avatar
      CericX -
      Some good stuff in there Oakayam, lot of variation for play I think.

      15pts for Sentinel is not for Touch the Light or for healing communion, they are simply perks. Benediction, Watchful Gaze, and Walk in the Light are justification of their own. Since you're arguing for Cab the only skill you're really going against is Benediction? I bet you'll be hardpressed to get a significant advantage to straight spell power vs + healing as the +healing is multiplicative (pretty sure thats the word I'm looking for!) If you've got numbers for me I'll change those 5 points as I'm not married to them.

      As the spec is for Main Tank heals it shouldn't really be doing AOE heals except in a pinch. I can think of a particular boss in RoTP where this is used for a single healer for the fight, so it does have the occasional use.

      Ward of Ancestors> Restorative Flame I can see being argued, based on current spell power. Goal being to keep the tank shielded throughout and to touch as little of the actual HP as possible I lean towards using Ward in rotation. Helps with poopy tanks.
      If it is a move intensive fight and you want to save your Ward for that phase I can see the argument for it, though I would simply reverse its position in the macro instead so that it only casts on movement. Specific to fight though, lots of times movement isn't that big a deal.

      The Oh Hell macro I don't normally mash all at once, I'll hit it as needed one at a time. It nicely reduces hotbar slots and reaches. I don't have to decide 6,7,8,9,0,-,= to get an immediate remedy, I know that clicking the one key will give a quick boost for the tank and I return to normal rotation.

      I'm not quite as enamored with the Blessing as you are, generally they are not needed for me. Seperating it out and using it with Breath\Flare would give a nice kick to Flare, but how many GCD's will you be moving? 2-3 it isn't worth the extra flare or Fiery Blessing you could have put in its place. If its an extreme movement fight I'd question if Puri is the right spec It makes a very nice Oh Hell to catch up on HP though so I've tended to use it that way.

      Flashover and Latent Blaze I did not know, makes Latent Blaze an awful lot more helpful!

      Think I addressed it all, and very much appreciate the read Oakayam. If you're game for the math between Benediction and Stroke of Genius lets open up a forum thread and get to it, will give me something to do while at work!
    1. Oakayam's Avatar
      Oakayam -
      I'd drop Walk in the Light. I feel this talent is not as beneficial for 51 Purifier as it for other builds. The main reason is that the shields can't crit.
      Ill be the first on to admit I use Fiery Blessing then I see tanks' health fluctuate but most of crits will end up as an overheal. One can argue that higher crits will increase the amount of healing from your Surging Flames. True but irrelevant to your main purpose ( plus underwhelming when your icars and chloro are half paying attention ). In raid setting 5p Cab gives me about 350-400 more absorbed per Restorative Flame cast. That, on other hand, is a tangible increase I can definitely justify those 5p with

      I don't have the numbers on other shields or the exact values for my sp. I'll check next time the heal lead let's me play with Purifier :P ( I'd need to have a chance to play both specs haha ).
    1. CericX's Avatar
      CericX -
      Quote Originally Posted by Oakayam View Post
      I'd drop Walk in the Light. I feel this talent is not as beneficial for 51 Purifier as it for other builds. The main reason is that the shields can't crit.
      Ill be the first on to admit I use Fiery Blessing then I see tanks' health fluctuate but most of crits will end up as an overheal. One can argue that higher crits will increase the amount of healing from your Surging Flames. True but irrelevant to your main purpose ( plus underwhelming when your icars and chloro are half paying attention ). In raid setting 5p Cab gives me about 350-400 more absorbed per Restorative Flame cast. That, on other hand, is a tangible increase I can definitely justify those 5p with

      I don't have the numbers on other shields or the exact values for my sp. I'll check next time the heal lead let's me play with Purifier :P ( I'd need to have a chance to play both specs haha ).
      Restorative flame still contains a heal aspect as do most of the other spells used, so you'll still be picking up benefit from crits. Espescially with forced crits from Fiery Blessing and Flashover. With already ~35-40% crit from Flame Speaker and base Int, thats a pretty massive benefit from the skill though it doesn't directly benefit shields.
    1. Primal's Avatar
      Primal -
      51 Purifier is a tank healing spec for fights with either
      a) Extreme amounts of tank damage
      b) Large healing recevied debuffs on the tank
      or
      c) A combination of the above

      There is really almost 0 situations where you should be using 51 Purifier before entering Infernal Dawn. The only exceptions being Lord Greenscale if your tank and healers are undergeared (which is practically impossible these days) or possibly Matron Zamira. There really is no reason to run 51 Purifier on any other fight, unless you are learning the spec.

      For a more realistic guide to 51 Purifier I suggest reading Ahov's Guide to 51 Purifier on the official forums.
    1. CericX's Avatar
      CericX -
      Quote Originally Posted by Primal View Post
      51 Purifier is a tank healing spec for fights with either
      a) Extreme amounts of tank damage
      b) Large healing recevied debuffs on the tank
      or
      c) A combination of the above
      You forgot to add "and light AOE."

      While I appreciate that you feel all players extremely overgear the content, that is simply not the case. Guides are meant for newer players, it is assumed at the point where you are raiding ID that you are familiar with your class.
    1. EternalBrown's Avatar
      EternalBrown -
      No, even on alt-runs, anything more than a few senticars and a chloro for most pre-ID raids is adequate. 51 Puri has never been necessary prior to ID (and a few fights, LGS and MAYBE Matron pre-nerf).
    1. Primal's Avatar
      Primal -
      Quote Originally Posted by CericX View Post
      You forgot to add "and light AOE."

      While I appreciate that you feel all players extremely overgear the content, that is simply not the case. Guides are meant for newer players, it is assumed at the point where you are raiding ID that you are familiar with your class.
      If your 51 Puri has enough free GCDs that they can help out a bit on AoE then you don't need a 51 Puri. You should use a 51 Puri when you need absolutely beast tank heals that no other spec can match. Simple as that.
      Even during pre-nerf HK progression 51 Puri was overkill on pretty much everything.
    1. CericX's Avatar
      CericX -
      Different worlds here. I'm more worried about being able to play something enjoyable that is able to clear the content than in min\maxing for the worlds fastest runs. If I can get a 1k SP cleric through a 5man with a 9k tank and low DPS then the spec accomplishes everything required of it in regards to 5man. On the flip side if someone wants to run a full HK puri through 5man\10man\GSB\ROS\HK, I'm not going to argue with them as long as it gets the job done.
      I understand the urge to min\max the raid and clear content as quickly as possible. It just isn't my primary motivation. Far more entertaining to me is someone playing a spec they enjoy and pushing that spec to accomplish something amazing.
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